But muh Objective Morality

Things don’t have to be objective to matter. Language for example is completely made up. It is all arbitrary. Every word in every language, was made up. There isn't an objective best one. But we do not pretend that within each one that there are no rules and that words have no meaning.

If we all decide something, even if at the root it’s not objective, it still holds value. Murder is wrong because we say so, is as perfectly valid as saying I means me.

We define Yellow by the experience of it. We could say "actually" its x number of wave lengths, but that while true, isn't how we know yellow. We know it by looking at it. We create a prototype and stem from there. It is not perfect. People may disagree the exact line between yellow and gold for example, but no one would call it purple. We have a “general truth”. We can share this exp and convey the label of yellow without counting wave lengths.

So although we could invent axioms about why murder is wrong to create a more objective 'formula' for ethics, this is not being honest about how we actually derive at moral decisions. People are just reacting to the fear or moral relativism. But you can't escape relativism IF you hold that anything that is not objective is useless.

There is more than two categories. One is the collective-subjectivity another is objective with the subjective. For example if I want to measure temperature in F or in C, both are equally valid (F is less gay) and yet both were just made up. That doesn’t make them not real. We created a value set arbitrarily. However after that, within that value set there are rules.

You can attempt to justify one over the other because you think it ‘matches nature’ for C to have water boil at the round number 100 at sea level. But it really doesn’t matter what the land level is or when water changes form. Also even 100 is derived arbitrarily as people just invented a number system that is based on 10s. Probably because we have 10 fingers. It could have been dozens it could have been 2s.

In fact you use the 12/60 model when you tell time. You use the old Summarian system for 360 degrees in the circle too simply because its a number easily divisible into whole numbers for halves thirds and forths. But that was just made up and then agreed upon. The math we invented will run into problems, irrational numbers and more complex issues later. The thing is, when we agree on something that’s enough.

Even if you try to say ah-ha my moral system is objective because its the word of God. Which God? Which religion? How did you decide that one and not another one? It was a subjective choice. One you are convinced of course but others are equally convinced of their dogma too.

You have to get over this canard that only objectivity holds weight. That's not true and not how any of us actually live. We do have culture. Transgenderism is wrong because its disgusting. I do not need to justify that with some objective standard. "Disgusting" is subjective so what? So is not disgusting.

It is you-know-who that wants to pretend like there is no right or wrong until you map out every possible decision mathematically. That isn't how we operate. I’m sure there's a lot of physics in a basketball game, and given enough time you could theoretically explain a game in those terms. But that's not what you’re doing when you shoot a ball. Its based on experience and adjustments made to prior experience completely ignorant of the air pressure in the ball, the drag coincident, the surface tension of the floor etc. Don’t pretend otherwise.

What I’m getting at is you know when something is wrong. Don't play stupid. It’s not necessary to break it down into numbers or the word of the lord or whatever. Trannies are an abomination. Per capita they might murder kids as much as Israelis.

This does not deduce to anything is OK if I feel like it is. Collective subjectivity says otherwise. You can’t say cows are made of chicken and pigs are made a beef. And then claim the words cow chicken pig and beef were made up so now they just mean whatever you want. You can always say YOU don’t think something is wrong. But I and many others can come along and say yes it is and that’s backed by force. A decision has to be backed and informed by both reason and empathy. And like yellow it doesn’t have PERFECTLY defined borders, and it doesn’t need to.

Randomly murdering kids is wrong. Giving Hormone replacement therapy to children or flying on Air Canada is a sin. These are as close to objective truths as you are going to get in moral questions.